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From Gawker:
Last evening our night watchman Cajun Boy reported that Chicago radio talker Erich "Mancow" Muller may have faked his waterboarding for publicity. We talked to both Muller and his waterboarder this morning, and the whole thing is a farce. Muller wasn't waterboarded.
"We went into this thinking it was going to be a joke," Muller said very quickly when we called him. "But it was not a joke—it was horrible. 'Hoax' is probably not the right word, but we did think it was going to be a joke."
According to e-mails from Muller's publicist obtained by Cajun Boy, on the day before the heavily promoted stunt was supposed to happen, Muller was frantically looking for anybody to perform the waterboarding:
It is going to have to look "real" but of course would be simulated with Mancow acting like he is drowning. It will be a hoax but have to look real. Would be great if they could dress in fatigues and bring whatever is needed. We will supply the water.
"It was a marine who did it," Muller said. "I don't know his training. Is he a professional interrogator? I don't think so. But he knew what to do. If I wanted to fake it, it would have lasted for six minutes—I lasted six seconds. I'm on the air, bud, I'm on the air." Then he hung up.
So we called Klay South, the marine Mancow found at the last minute to perform the waterboarding. He says he had no idea what he was doing! To wit:
I know nothing about waterboarding. I had never done it before, I have no formal training in it, and I've never had it done to me. The only thing I knew was what I saw on the internet. I went to waterboarding.org and looked it up. I just did what I was told—poured the water on his face and that was it. I'm probably the last person they should have had do it. I didn't know what I was doing.
That settles it for us! South is the founder of Veterans of Valor, a nonprofit that helps out wounded vets, and he said he agreed to the gig just to gain a donation and publicity for the organization, a noble enough reason.
According to South's main resource, waterboarding.org, waterboarders should "restrain the interrogation subject on a board" and "incline the board about 15-20 degrees so that the feet are above the head." South says Muller's feet were bound, but his arms were not. And although his feet were elevated, he was laying on a flat surface.
We asked South if it seemed like Muller was faking it: "I don't know. I couldn't tell you if he was in distress or not."
This is simply more Sean Hannity bashing. Madcow's "this is torture" reaction was immediately after his experience.
I'm not saying waterboarding is pleasant, but Madcow should have waited a bit before making his assessment. Not to mention, Madcow drown as a child and had to be revived.
Not a valid source is all I'm saying.
Regardless, if a terror suspect has information that could lead to saving the lives of Americans than I favor throwing the book at them.
Complete bullshit. Mancow is a sellout and a hack!
UPDATE: "Mancow" Waterboarded; Olbermann Donates To Charity "Hannity Unnecessary" (Video)
Here's the deal; no one ever said waterboarding was supposed to be pleasant. It's not supposed to be fun and the whole point is to "simulate" drowning!
That said, I still don't care what you want to call it -- I support anything that gets terrorists to sing in order to protect the security of America.
I'll say this; Mancow has balls and Hannity really dropped the ball by not putting his money where his mouth is.
For the record, Olbermann is still an ass.
NBC Chicago reports:
"The average person can take this for 14 seconds," Marine Sergeant Clay South answered, adding, "He's going to wiggle, he's going to scream, he's going to wish he never did this."
With a Chicago Fire Department paramedic on hand, Mancow was placed on a 7-foot long table, his legs were elevated, and his feet were tied up.
Turns out the stunt wasn't so funny. Witnesses said Muller thrashed on the table, and even instantly threw the toy cow he was holding as his emergency tool to signify when he wanted the experiment to stop. He only lasted 6 or 7 seconds.
"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke,"Mancow said, likening it to a time when he nearly drowned as a child. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back...It was instantaneous...and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."
"I wanted to prove it wasn't torture," Mancow said. "They cut off our heads, we put water on their face...I got voted to do this but I really thought 'I'm going to laugh this off.' "
Last year, Vanity Fair writer Christopher Hitchens endured the same experiment -- and came to a similar conclusion. The conservative writer said he found the treatment terrifying, and was haunted by it for months afterward.
Conservative columnist Ann Coulter tells Geraldo Rivera that if the Democrats had to put together a truth commission for the Nancy Pelosi waterboarding case, they would choose Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.
Sweet! Put all the Leftist Liberal Nazis on the witness stand. Try them all for what they knew and when they knew it. Treason is a Capitol Crime!
Douchebags!
Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO) joins the GOP's blasting of Nancy Pelosi's hypocrisy, dishonesty and insulting statements.
The latest conspiracy is out! The claim is that the Bush Administration used Enhanced Interrogation Techniques as a means to justify the Iraq War.
He claims that Bush officials used the defense that there was a specific, imminent threat to the U.S. to justify waterboarding, and that such a defense would not be prosecutable.
However, Whitehouse says it is criminal if waterboarding was used to establish a "political" connection between Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.
This is the bigger news of the day -- we all know she is a liar -- but that fact that the Speaker of the House is solely concerned about electing a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President. She all but admits she does not care about America, national security or anything else she was elected to do.
Rep. Pete Hoekstra blasts Pelosi for her comments indicating that her position as Speaker is solely to win elections! And that she didn't have the time to focus on national security!
Too busy to focus on national security? Madame Speaker is third in line to the Presidency of The United States! She better damn well know what's going on in all facets of government!
Rep. Hoekstra also appeared today with Shep Smith, who clearly "Does Not Fucking Torture". Shep tried to goat him into saying waterboarding is torture, but Hoekstra would not bite.
House Minority Leade John Boehner responds to Speaker Nancy Pelosi's most recent BS about what she knew and when she knew it concerning E.I.T.
Documents reveal Nancy Pelosi knew of CIA enhanced interrogation techniques. Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity destroy the Queen.
Coulter says if waterboarding was so bad, why would journalists continue to volunteer to try it?
Sign the petition to impeach Nancy Pelosi!
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said last month that she was briefed on waterboarding and enhanced interrogation techniques, but was unaware that the CIA actually used them.
As far as I'm concerned, any member of congress who blatantly lies about national security and intelligence should be impeached, if not tried for treason!
Sign the petition to impeach Nancy Pelosi!
Human Events reports:
She knew from the beginning. According to a CIA document compiled by the Director of National Intelligence summarizing briefings to Congress on the use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorist detainees, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Ca) knew from the very beginning that those techniques -- including waterboarding -- were being used on September 4, 2002.
According to the memo the very first briefing listed is 9/4/02 with then Rep. Porter Goss & Pelosi. The summary of the briefing says:
“Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed.”
This directly contradicts Pelosi’s story, that “we were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used.”
As HUMAN EVENTS reported earlier, Pelosi - by objecting to the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques - could have stopped them but didn't.
Pelosi's misstatements were apparently intended to divert attention from her and other Democrats in Congress who knew of all the enhanced interrogation methods -- in detail -- apparently as soon as they were being used.
More than 100 anti-torture activists marched to the White House on Thursday to protest against US detention policy.
They also voiced anger against what they consider to be the governments refusal to punish those responsible for torture.
An anonymous source also told ConservativeXpress that these people have no jobs and may be on welfare. They also believe a land of "Happy Little Clouds and Rainbows" and perhaps "little green elfs."
Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
I really hope Sean goes through with this. He can get advice from fellow Fox News employee Steve Harrigan or Vanity Fair's Chris Hitchens.
I'm sure waterboarding sucks, but how can Hannity let Olbermann get the satisfaction of "winning"!
Even better; Sean should challenge Olbermann back and say forget the cash, how about they both undergo waterboarding and compare notes.
Sean Hannity recently told actor Charles Grodin that he would accept an offer to be waterboarded for charity.
Keith Olbermann challenged Hannity's sincerity by saying he would contribute $1000/second to charity.
It remains to be seen what Hannity decides, but last summer, Vanity Fair's Christopher Hitchens agreed to undergo waterboarding.
Having never been waterboarded, I'll refrain from commenting on Hitchens' reaction, but his experience look pretty tame and mild compared to Fox News' Steve Harrigan's waterboarding demo seen here. Harrigan endures for worse tactics, yet unlike Hitchens, Harrigan believes it is not torture but merely an "efficient" way of getting someone to talk. Maybe Hitchens is just a liberal light weight and Harrigan is tougher. I don't know, just saying.
Read Hitchens' article "Believe Me, It’s Torture":
What more can be added to the debate over U.S. interrogation methods, and whether waterboarding is torture? Try firsthand experience. The author undergoes the controversial drowning technique, at the hands of men who once trained American soldiers to resist—not inflict—it.